A Big thanks

Just wanted to give a big thanks to all of those that answered the request to Blog about the plight of my friend Dan Silverman.

It doesn’t matter if you believe him or not—belief is irrelevant here—information is all we have and we must fight to get information out there. I am going to attempt to put a link to all the bloggers that were willing to do this for me, if i missed anyone, i probably didnt see it yet, just comment and let me know.


RevRuss (The only Christian that took me up on that –thanks Russ—shows a lot of character!)

Mike aka Monalithma  LINK FIXED thanks mike

did i miss anyone?

once again, thanks. Knowledge is power.

Keep it up please and tell more people about this.

  • It's confusing: I own the domain: atheistsandchristians.com, which will take you to the actual blogger address which is: http://atheists-and-christians.blogspot.com/. The one without the dashes is not mine.

    My only regret is that I didn't title my post "Saving Silverman" 😉

  • Hmmm…my first comment disappeared.

    It's confusing, I own the domain atheistsandchristians.com. but it points to http://atheists-and-christians.blogspot.com/. The one you linked to, without the dashes, is not mine.

  • No problem, Matt. For me, it was twofold – 1) I want to see justice served and that means if Dan is indeed telling the truth, he should be found innocent and 2) If he really was treated the way he says he was by his previous congregation, I just want people to know this is NOT the norm for Christianity, at least not in my experience. As I have stated elsewhere, I am a Christian because I believe it is THE truth and though I’m confident of that, I want to be careful not to cross the line into arrogance (and sometimes, it can be a fine line – and I’m sure I’ve crossed it a time or two). As a Christian myself, it saddens me to hear of those who walk away from the faith. But the last thing I wish them is any kind of harm. Being a pastor, (and please do not mistake what follows to be a judgment statement about anyone else in this story – just an exposition of my own beliefs) if I had a member who told me they no longer believed in the Christian faith or God for that matter, I would grieve like a father whose child told them “I don’t want to be a part of this family anymore”. But I would never give up on them, I would never stop loving them, and I would never stop reaching out for them. I wouldn’t try to coerce or force them back into the faith because I can’t MAKE anyone believe anything. I would simply continue to proclaim the truth of God’s love in Christ to them in a gentle and respectful way with the hope that they’d come back.

  • Hmmm…my first and second comments disappeared. Lets see if this one will post.

    It's confusing, I own the domain atheistsandchristians.com. but it points to http://atheists-and-christians.blogspot.com/. The one you linked to, without the dashes, is not mine.

  • Haven't posted Silverman article on my blog but will soon. I think I may be in for some Christian bleep hitting the fan myself.

  • This is a great blog. I’ve given you the Rock Star Award for it. If you’d like to claim it, you can on my blog at;


  • Ok, that’s just weird, now all my comments are there. I even checked on different computers at work. Sorry about the multiple comments.

  • Matt

    hey mike, my spam blocker was picking your comments up as spam..it does that when you have links in them sometimes—i despammed them, so yours should show up fine from now on

  • just posted links for Dan, Matt and ex-christian.net on my blog. I won’t put the entire url link here because of your spam blocker, but after my web site url which you have with this comment /blog/2008/11/23/christian-bleepings-are-hitting-the-fan-far-too-frequently/ follows.

  • I’m “working” on a blog about it, granted it’s more skewed to burden of proof standards in cases such as this; but hey I have to cater to an audience.

  • I have revised my blog post entitled Why Christian Bleepings Hit the Fan many times.

    Here’s the concluding paragraph: Thus, I’m proclaiming that the Way and the Truth and the Life (a.k.a. Jesus Christ) is beginning to make the Way and the Truth and the Life clear to all Christians. And people like Dan Silverman and Matt Oxley are a couple of the majority of Christians and ex-Christians who are the truly faithful to Christ. Listening to one’s own heart is the new meaning of Christian faith. Because the human heart is made in the image of God and is therefore the home of the the Way and the Truth and the Life. Believing in one’s own heart is believing in Christ.

  • Matt

    looks really good ron, thanks again

  • Blog up.