A visit from LDS Missionaries

in Debates/Conversations, Politics, Religion and Spirituality, Uncategorized by Matt on November 27th, 2009

Foreward

A note to my LDS friends: Please understand that the purpose of this post is not to disprove or discredit your belief system or you personally. I have a deep respect for each one of you and only desire that the lines of communication that exists between myself and you continue to stay open. I only wish that the rest of Christendom were as open to discussion and as kind in doing so as you have always been to me. Even during the times when I made a fool of myself as a self-righteous Christian and if I have done so now as an atheist. Please allow this post to represent my care for mankind and not a hate for god or religious people. If something here is offensive it was not my intent, but I challenge anyone and everyone that does read this to consider the purpose behind it and the logic behind my own doubt.
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About two months ago I was browsing through my normal routine of atheist sites and blogs when I happened upon an advertisement for Mormon.org’s chat service which allows anyone to log onto the website and chat with a missionary from the Church of Jesus-Christ of Latter Day Saints (also known as Mormons or LDS).  I decided to log on and chat with the kind folks there to see why they believed what they did and so on,  being an individual that is not entirely unfamiliar with LDS beliefs I came in with a foreknowledge of the basic LDS doctrine and simply wanted to challenge these kind people to think about the origin of their belief – something I had to do for myself once upon a time.

Missionary One: Initial encounter

The first missionary I talked to was a very kind young man, if I remember correctly he was 19 and in training to go to South America to present their version of the gospel to the people there, you see, the chat center is located in Provo, UT at the Missionary Training Academy where all the LDS missionaries go for a time prior to being sent out. (Most LDS members go on mission at some point in their life usually in their early 20’s, the mission generally lasts two years and is part of being a holder of the Melchizedek Priesthood). I explained to him that I was an atheist and that I was at one time a Christian, he spoke to me about  his “relationship with god” and how he knew god was real because he felt him so strongly in his life and because he had seen god’s many blessings on him and his family. I explained to him a little about my past and how I too had a relationship with my own deity and that at one point I came to realize that this deity was merely my own mental and emotional interpretation of the god of the Bible and the god that I most wanted to serve. (aka, an imaginary friend that I molded after my own view of god). Eventually I gave this missionary my phone number and he and I talked about this subject on two different nights, he would also give me some verses from the Book of Mormon to read. I read what he asked each time that he did. During our last conversation he let me know that he was leaving to go on his mission and would therefore be unable to call again and asked permission to give my number to another missionary named Stephen, I agreed and issued one final challenge to him: I simply asked that he ask himself if he would be comfortable with even the idea of there not being a god and that if he could find a way to cope with that if he would then begin to challenge the idea of god that he had. He agreed.

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Examiner

in Uncategorized by Matt on August 18th, 2009

I just wanted to let everyone know that I am now the new Atheism Examiner for Atlanta Georgia on Examiner.com.  Right now I am just using some of the most successful posts from this blog as my material, but soon I will be submitting new material to both this site and my examiner site. So. Please add me to your favorites or subscribe to me via SMS, leave comments, and tell your friends

My Examiner page can be found Here!

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Angry At God?

in Uncategorized by Matt on June 3rd, 2009

AngryI and many of my Atheist cohorts have been accused over and over of being “Angry at God”. Ray Comfort even recently used our supposed hatred as evidence that we each know that God exists intuitively….seriously, read it here. Since this is occurring with some frequency right now I feel the need to try to deal with the assertion as effectively as possible. The initial reaction of most Atheists is that the assertion is silly, “How can I be mad at a God that does not exist”. I, of course, agree entirely with this but the fact does remain that myself and many of my peers are mad at something…It just isn’t quite what Ray Comfort and other Christians may think.

God the being does not exist, I think I have made that understanding abundantly clear here, however God does exist in another way. God is an idea, a concept, and an institution – three intangible things in one, the true Holy Trinity. These things make me angry, these are the things at which my aggression is truly directed. I am mad at God  because the idea of God makes me sick, the concept of his requirements for man are intolerable, and the institutions that represent him are dangerous.

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Carnival of the Godless#117

in Uncategorized by Matt on May 20th, 2009

The Carnival of the Godless recently released the 117th edition of their magazine and they have featured me here at RagingRev.com.

Our friends over at the State of Protest blog are hosting it this month so I would like everyone to go and check out all of the entries, there are some good ones in there.

In the mean time I am going to work on a new post. I encourage my Atheist friends to submit their posts to the Carnival of the Godless and participate, it is a good way to meet new bloggers and get to know other peoples work.

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New Theme and Threaded Replies

in Uncategorized by Matt on March 24th, 2009

WOOHOO. So, I found a site with all sorts of really nice themes and I really fell in love with this one- It is called Javazine and it was built by the folks at Kriesi. It took a while for me to tweak it to work well with the main plugins, but I think it looks great…now if I can figure out how to remove the Javazine logo from the top banner…I am awaiting a reply from the developer on how to do that…I bet its something really easy to do. If you see any bugs in it please let me know via commenting on this post.
Speaking of comments, I am currently working on getting IntenseDebate fully installed and all the old comments imported, lots of the comments may seem to have disappeared but i still have copies of all of them as far as I know.

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Debate & Discussion: Heresy

in Uncategorized by Matt on March 19th, 2009

Crazy Eye Crowley

My ole budy Guy Vestal over at HeresyToday.org has decided to start an old fashioned mailing list for Religious discussion. I am going to be helping him moderate it and we want people from every religious background to join up…so please…do so…it should be lot’s of fun!

To join just go HERE and fill out the info. We are looking for anyone from any background…Wiccans, Christians, Zebras, Atheists, Theosophists, Raelians, etc etc etc…

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Understanding Biblical Context: The Wrath and Anger of God

in Uncategorized by Matt on March 5th, 2009

rosecoloredglassesDefending the God of the Bible was once a passion of mine, I studied apologia in order to defend my “True Faith”. Talking with young Atheists and dissenters was something I spent a lot of time doing at one point, though I could understand their arguments and reasons for disliking YHWH, I always felt in my heart that the only reason they didn’t “get it” was because they didn’t have the Holy Spirit in them to show them this truth or to help them “understand it” the way that I did.

In retrospect I find that this “Holy Spirit” that was silently giving me “Knowledge of God” and “evidence” was merely my own understanding and desire for the Gospel to be the Truth. My need for God was providing me with all the evidence I required at the time…which for me then was nothing more than a “fuzzy feeling” and a burning in the bosom (As the LDS Church conveniently puts it). That small self contained and self created feeling allowed me to ignore a magnitude of flaws in the character of YHWH…because I had a Personal relationship with Christ I was able to look past the bad parts and only see the good parts, justifying the evils of YHWH as justice and fatherly love… something my Christian counterparts are able to do still.

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99 Problems (and a Glitch IS one)

in Uncategorized by Matt on February 11th, 2009

May experience some major latency on my site for the rest of today, the Wordpress automatic upgrade to 2.7.1 screwed something up and wont complete…im workin on it…be patient.

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Dormant Christian?

in Uncategorized by Matt on February 9th, 2009

buddy-cPastor Guy recently responded to my request for some inspiration, his original topic starter was the inability to prove that emotions exist in the human race. I have to say that guy may be confused as to just what human emotions are other than chemical reactions in the body/brain but they seem to be pretty well set in stone to me- so that’s one worm I won’t bite. However, when I asked Guy in a private email to explain his contention a little more clearly he left a little quip at the end of the email that made my knee jerk just a bit. Pastor Guy knows how to get a rise out of me (Which is why he might just be the resident smart ass here at RagingRev- a title I think he may gladly accept).

So, what did Guy say?

could my statement of “Dormant Christian” to describe you be a worthy topic?

What an interesting position…”Dormant Christian”! Guy is proposing that because I was at one time a devoted Christian (Saved, if you will) then technically I am still a Christian. Guy evidently ascribes to the doctrine of “Once Saved , Always Saved”…if you aren’t familiar with that, its one of those small controversial doctrines that Christians like to debate and argue over. When I was a Christian my position was strangely similar to Guy’s, however I was not very solid on it…it wasn’t considered cardinal in my life but I always WANTED to believe something like that. Now though, I have to look at it from the outside…and it’s just one of those things that you don’t think about until you hear it or read it like I did when Guy said that…it kind of…caught me off guard.

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Fun Friday #3: Dentists trip

in Uncategorized by Matt on February 6th, 2009

OK, its another Fun Friday here at RagingRev.com, and when I saw this video I lolled and lolled and lolled through the whole thing…deal is…this kid just got back from the dentist…and the drugs have him High as a kite!

When I was in grade school we used to go to the free poor kids dentist…they didn’t have anything this good..hell..they barely gave us enough Novocaine to last the rest of the school day!

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